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I would like to propose a new category for local user groups, with sub-categories for each group.

This would allow these user groups to have a central place of discussion rather than having to set up their own mailing lists. Rather than having posts in this category directly, I also propose that local user groups make a request to have a sub-category set up for them. Within their sub-category, these groups would be free to do things like post news only locally-relevant and speak in their native language.

More specifically, I would like a sub-category, ROSJP, for the Japanese user group. We need a place where local users can feel free to post in Japanese without feeling like they are polluting a non-Japanese-language board. Otherwise, we find that Japanese users tend to feel like using Japanese is forbidden and don't participate.

While I recognise there may be fears of splitting the ROS community, the fact is that there are a large number of ROS users who do not feel comfortable communicating in English. I feel it would be good for the central discussion board of ROS to provide these people a home in their own language.

Discourse allows the administrator to set site-wide defaults for email/subscription preferences. The entire local user group category should be disabled by default, and users who find a relevant sub-category can enable that one only if they choose to do so.





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Thanks for the suggestion @gbiggs I've setup a c/local and c/local/japan

Can you propose a welcoming blurb for https://discourse.ros.org/t/about-the-japanese-user-group-category/2022 specific to ROSJP? And I'll drop it in there.

I have suppressed the Local category from ros-users@ notifications. And I've found an option to turn off the digest for that category. However I think that option will truely turn off digest options generally not just default digest options. So I think that people sticking with mailing list mode will have to mute it if they want it to not notify them.





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Thanks for that! I'm getting the blurb checked by a native speaker, to avoid embarrassing myself. It should be ready shortly.





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I think it is a very interesting proposal. :thumbsup: Currently, each local ROS user group have their own community, and so that information is scattered. I think it is a good idea to collect ROS users from all over the world into one forum. Good! I also ask to make a Korean ROS user group as a sub-category.





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@tfoote Here's the text for the ROSJP category.

    ROSROS Japan Users GroupROS

    ROS Japan Users Group
    https://rosjp.connpass.com





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Thank you for your rapid response, @gbiggs and @tfoote
I'm one of organizer of ROS Japan Users Group and very happy to add regional subcategories.

@tfoote Please rename the subcategory to "ROS Japan Users Group". It's an official name. rosjp is short name (or hashtag).





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@youtalk and @tfoote, I think that it makes sense! It would be nice to unify the names of the categories like  "ROS **Country** Users Group".





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[quote="Pyo, post:4, topic:2019"]
I also ask to make a Korean ROS user group as a sub-category.
[/quote]

I've created the category: https://discourse.ros.org/c/local/korea
Can you propose a blurb for the about? https://discourse.ros.org/t/about-the-ros-korea-users-group-category/2024

@gbiggs I've updated it with your suggested blurb.

@youtalk Thanks for the clarification. I've updated the name. I hope this can provide a useful forum for the group.

Please both of you help kick off some discussions to seed the categories. There's little more intimidating than an empty category.

[quote="Pyo, post:7, topic:2019"]
It would be nice to unify the names of the categories like  "ROS Country Users Group".
[/quote]

I'd rather not be prescriptive, but let people choose their own naming pattern. With ROS Japan Users Group and ROS Korea Users Group setting the standard I suspect that others who are interested will do the same. To my ear that template doesn't parse immediately, because it's not the ROS version of the Country User Group, but the Country version of the ROS User Group which is why I originally proposed the transpose.

There are also other levels of regionality that might make sense sometimes big cities have a community. Sometimes states or regions too. See the [regional meetups](http://wiki.ros.org/Events) on the wiki. Sometimes local flair, plays on words can add some levity.





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Can you please also create "ROS Ukraine Users Group" as a sub-category





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@Andriy Yeah, Have you been involved with the existing group already? And can you suggest in intro blurb for it?





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+1. This can actually help the entire ROS community.

I usually websearch with a prefix like `(site:ros.org OR site:github.com)` to reduce/remove false-positives. Works great for that purpose, but clearly this doesn't grab info from outside of those domains. With language groups discussions joining the same domain, we can even find some debug discussions only happening in a certain language group (and maybe provide back answers if possible).





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Hey @tfoote,

Yes, I am actively involved in community.
Here is the text for ROS Ukraine

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       ROS Ukraine Users Group.
      '  ROS    .
   ROS Ukraine Users Group [https://www.facebook.com/groups/279366215828155/](https://www.facebook.com/groups/279366215828155/)

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Thank you in advance :slight_smile:

Andriy





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Hi @tfoote,

Here is the text for 'ROS Korea Users Group'



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 ROS   (ROS Korea Users Group) ROS  Discourse .
ROS        .

https://www.facebook.com/groups/427060150825583/

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@Pyo I've added the text to the about.

@Andriy The ROS Ukraine Users Group has been created at: https://discourse.ros.org/c/local/ukraine  Also I'd strongly suggest making your facebook group open to be able to gather new participants. Many people will listen in on forums for quite a while before contributing. If they can't listen in they'll often disengage.





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@tfoote Thank you for advice. Fully agree with them and of course Facebook group is public and all posts are visible for everyone.

Could you please change title from "ROS Ukraine User Group"  to "ROS Ukraine Users Group" to be consistent with the rest of the groups :)





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[quote="Andriy, post:15, topic:2019"]
Could you please change title from "ROS Ukraine User Group"  to "ROS Ukraine Users Group" to be consistent with the rest of the groups :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Sorry for the typo, fixed.


[quote="Andriy, post:15, topic:2019"]
@tfoote Thank you for advice. Fully agree with them and of course Facebook group is public and all posts are visible for everyone.
[/quote]

Note that I still cannot browse the facebook group as linked from the description.

<img src="/uploads/ros/original/1X/bc0f61d893d4b33b9585629aa58c2562f069187b.png" width="690" height="281">





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@tfoote thank you very much for fixing typo :)  And you are right. Unfortunately public Facebook groups are not accessible [without account](https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/29581/access-to-facebook-groups-without-facebook-account).
So I guess in this case discourse category will be nice place for 100% public information to community.





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